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Most hated canon pairing in CCS [Jun. 1st, 2009|05:18 pm]
In Support of Hated Pairings


Yeah, going to be defending Eriol/Kaho here. Or rather directly shooting down the bashing; you can read all about why the pairing rocks here *pimps*

1. Eww, Kaho's old enough to be Eriol's mother, it's disgusting and wrong!

Oh, where to begin...

First, Eriol is not a ten-year-old. Spinel explicitly states that Eriol has been "a child" and "not aging" for years. Since we see Clow reincarnate into Eriol and Fujitaka at the same time, both as boys, it can be inferred that Eriol is the same age as Fujitaka, and literally old enough to be the father of any of the main characters.

Second, assume for the sake of argument that Eriol is as young as he appears. Kaho is in her mid-twenties at the oldest- she was a student teacher when she met Touya, so college aged and no older than 22, so 2-3 years later she'd be 25 at most. She's only old enough to be Eriol's teen mother, and barely old enough for that. Not as huge an age gap as the bashing would like to make out.

Third, the "pedophile" accusation is thrown at Terada-sensei far less often, even though he is Rika's teacher when they get engaged (there's no evidence that Kaho was ever Eriol's teacher) and both characters are normal with no extenuating circumstances (like Eriol having the memories and mentality of an adult despite possibly being a child); the only point in their favor is that they say they'll wait until Rika grows up (and Eriol and Kaho can't?). In fact, some who cry pedophile on E/K explicitly give R/T a pass, because "they're not freaks" (??), which just weakens their argument against E/K. Double standards: You can haz them, but they iz not good.

2. It came out of nowhere, just to give everyone a love interest! I can't support a random pairing!

Considering that a lot of the people who say this are also Eriol/Tomoyo shippers (they have about three conversations, one about Eriol's feelings for Kaho and the rest about Sakura, not to mention Tomoyo was consistently shown to love Sakura and Sakura alone), I have to LOL. As I covered in my E/K manifesto, the hints for the pairing started before Eriol even showed up, and became stronger once Kaho left and Eriol arrived. Suffice it to say, it was pretty clearly planned early on, if not from the first arc, then definitely not long into the second.

Sure, they lack scenes together until the big ones at the end, but that's because of the way the narrative is set up. CCS is, first and foremost, Sakura's story, so we follow her. And for Sakura's story as planned, Eriol and Kaho cannot be with Sakura at the same time without ruining Eriol's plans. A scene when they are together would also give away too much of the plot too early without serving any purpose.

3. Kaho is stealing Eriol away from needy females like poor Tomoyo!

I really hate this one, because it implies that Kaho doesn't deserve a love interest for some arbitrary reason. Possibly because she's not a preteen, and is so an old hag at 25. Plus, none of the "needy females" show any interest in Eriol, including Tomoyo, who says she doesn't need someone to love her back as she's happy just making Sakura happy. (As a sidenote, this accusation is sometimes levelled against Touya/Yukito, which is even more annoying; arbitrary male/female pairings are worth more than two male friends who come to love each other? And that's not taking into account how many messages it shatters to break up T/Y completely, close friendship included, to pair them with girls, or how much it would hurt them, Yukito especially.)

4. They don't look good together; Kaho's too tall for Eriol, and their hair colors don't match!

Yes, the height is a serious argument against them. Besides being utterly ridiculous, it also apparently assumes that the pairing is frozen in time and neither character will ever change in appearance. Eriol is already at Kaho's shoulder; with a bit of growing, he'll be taller than her. If he even needed to be; what's wrong with a woman being taller than the man she loves?

As for not looking good together, that's a matter of preference. I, personally, find that they look wonderful together, and much more interesting to look at than a monochrome of similar hair and skin colors that the E/T fans who use this argument praise. Then again, I also prefer Kaho's appearance to Tomoyo's, so maybe it's just me.

5. Eriol/Kaho is only canon because Kaho's the reincarnation of Clow's wife, so by breaking them up, we're helping Eriol establish his own identity! Besides, Kaho only loves the Clow inside Eriol, not Eriol himself!

Not exactly a direct argument against them, but a common implication when brought up. Also, a very common piece of fanon; oddly enough, usually claimed to be canon by opponents of E/K.

No, it isn't true that Kaho is a reincarnation. There's nothing said either way about it; all Clow seemed to know about Kaho was that she was the daughter of Tsukimine Shrine who would use the Moon Bell to help Sakura. That's CCS manga canon, at least; TRC/HOLiC pretty much shoot down the reincarnated wife fanon, as the woman who Clow was closest to shows up in the "present day", as the same person she was when she and Clow were together, and she is definitely not Kaho.

Likewise, there's no evidence that Kaho loves Clow, not Eriol. Kaho only mentions Clow as a distant figure, not as someone she loves. She does, however, comment on Eriol's Guardians, which were one of the first ways he used to put Clow behind him, so it's more likely that she loves Eriol instead of the shadow of Clow.

So, throwing aside the reincarnated wife theory, there's no reason why Eriol being with Kaho isn't any less "establishing his own identity" as pairing him with anyone else.

[User Picture]From: apathymoon
2009-06-01 11:19 pm (UTC)
Finally, I saw someone here on LJ who loves Kaho as much as I do! I ship Eriol/Kaho too and I agree with all what you've said. m(_ _)m *bows*
Kaho and EriKaho deserve more love. <33
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[User Picture]From: ayasugi_san
2009-06-02 02:29 pm (UTC)
There are more! We're just scattered! But it is gratifying to see more Kaho fans, when there are bashers who laugh at the thought of anyone defending her or her love for Eriol. Because she's that hateful and the pairing is that disgusting.
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[User Picture]From: whitelilies22
2009-06-02 05:03 am (UTC)
I have to admit, this pairing did come out of nowhere. Lol, probably because I watched the dubbed Cardcaptors instead of the original so all this was taken out but they do seem to fit better together than Eriol/Madison.

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[User Picture]From: ayasugi_san
2009-06-02 02:27 pm (UTC)
Well, it's also not confirmed in the subbed anime, only hinted at. And despite having more time and giving more facetime to both characters, the anime manages to characterize them less. Oddly enough, the dub might be the only medium where Eriol/Tomoyo is somewhat reasonable, as it's the only one where Tomoyo isn't completely in love with Sakura the whole time.
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[User Picture]From: miwalicious
2009-06-14 05:13 pm (UTC)
I love Eriol/Kaho! Where did Eriol/Tomoyo come from? Seriously.
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[User Picture]From: mandygirl78
2010-09-29 10:50 pm (UTC)
Finally, some sense! I don't know why people wanna pair Eriol with Tomoyo, she's a lesbian! Another reason why to never watch dubbed anime if you can.
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[User Picture]From: casualfangirl
2013-10-23 06:02 am (UTC)
I know this old, but this site seems to have no problem with large gaps between posts.

Anyway, I don't consider myself a shipper, but I have pairings that I fangirl over. Just not obsessively. Ironically, I'm an Eriol/Tomoyo fan, but I like Kaho and acknowledge Kaho/Eriol as canon. I also acknowledge Tomoyo's unrequited love for Sakura as canon. I just personally feel Eriol/Tomoyo have more chemistry(they take what Kaho/Eriol have and bring it to another level that's more fun to watch, but that's just me) and I can see Tomoyo being bisexual; and it's not because I'm homophobic over the idea of Tomoyo only like girls. I just honestly see her being very open like that. I'm pro gay and some of my favorite couples are gay to the point where I can't picture some of them going for the opposite sex.

I got over the age gap for both pairings a long time ago because Eriol can change his physical age to whatever he wants and I personally believe it's emotional maturity that makes a romantic relationship work instead of the the number(I've dated a guy who was five years older than me and I tend have crushes on men who are 10 years older or 10 years younger). There are limits to that though; it's harder to be physical intimate with some one whose bodies are physically too young or old without feeling uncomfortable(physically and emotionally) or else Terada wouldn't be waiting for Rika to grow into a mature body for example.

Despite my general preference for non canon couples, I do respect canon and I am a fan of canon couples too. Since we're talking about Card Captor Sakura, I like Sakura/Syaoran and Touya/Yukito just as much as I like Eriol/Tomoyo. I also have no problem reading fanfiction that stays strictly to the canon couples and enjoying them just as much. So in the end, I really do like Kaho/Eriol and one-sided Tomoyo/Sakura. I just like Eriol/Tomoyo way more, but I'm not delusional; at the end of the day canon wins and I hate seeing it disrespected(I may not have always agreed with canon, but I've always respected it even during my most immature years). I hit the back the button on any canon universe story that brushes off Kaho and pretends that Tomoyo was never in love with Sakura. It happened, people need to get over it even though it's not easy(it took me years to stop raging over the canon couples chosen for Digimon Adventure 02 and Harry Potter), and learn to write around it in a way that's believable while still being respectful to the characters.

I just felt like I needed to speak up for some of us non canon fans(not just Card Captor Sakura, but in general) who aren't delusional, have decent reasons for liking a couple beyond looks, don't bash the "threat", and respect canon. I don't expect anyone to agree with me either because chemistry between characters is subjective and I am posting in a place that's pro Kaho/Eriol.

Edited at 2013-10-23 06:03 am (UTC)
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